The heat trick makes no sense at all. Most would agree that 360 failing is due to bad heat dissapation so to fix add more heat? It reminds me of a joke of GIjoe where the guy tells these two kids the best way to put a fire out is to start an even bigger fire.
The towel trick is pure lunacy, youre looking at a serious fire risk. The fuzz that accumulates on towel sock etc can be ignited with just the spark from a lighter.
From everything Ive read the only thing you accomplish is reseting it. That once a certain heat level is reached the 360 shuts down and this is just a forced reset so it doesnt know it should be shutdown. But that nothing is actualy fixed. Kind of a snake oil situation if you ask me. Also without adding some form of new heat dissapation system youre just gonna get the same issue down the road wther its 2 minutes or 2 months.
The heat trick makes no sense at all. Most would agree that 360 failing is due to bad heat dissapation so to fix add more heat? It reminds me of a joke of GIjoe where the guy tells these two kids the best way to put a fire out is to start an even bigger fire.
The towel trick is pure lunacy, youre looking at a serious fire risk. The fuzz that accumulates on towel sock etc can be ignited with just the spark from a lighter.
From everything Ive read the only thing you accomplish is reseting it. That once a certain heat level is reached the 360 shuts down and this is just a forced reset so it doesnt know it should be shutdown. But that nothing is actualy fixed. Kind of a snake oil situation if you ask me. Also without adding some form of new heat dissapation system youre just gonna get the same issue down the road wther its 2 minutes or 2 months.
Well the problem is that the older Xbox 360's GPU's make way too much heat and it warps the motherboard. Overtime, the board warps so much that the solder points below the GPU become brittle and break. Doing the towel trick reheats the solder and makes it flow again. It's only a temporary fix and the solder points will just break again.
The right way to do it is to get an X-clamp fix and then overheat the Xbox without the fans attached for a while. That way the solder reflows and the board can't warp again. _________________________________________________________
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: free
it was a free red ringed 360 some one gave me, seems to be working fine for now.
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Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject:
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SPPV wrote:
The right way to do it is to get an X-clamp fix and then overheat the Xbox without the fans attached for a while. That way the solder reflows and the board can't warp again.
That's the exact method i performed when fixing like 20 of them. I found most come back to RROD again but if you are lucky you can get away with fixing some of them for good.
Hey guys, just need to jump on this one....shoot some liquid flux under the gpu/cpu before ez-baking your system in which ever method you use.
Also, get some thin plastic washers, and throw them between the posts and x-clamp(yes, I put them back on) This will prevent the board warping, in that area.
The metal case could also be the problem, see if your board is flexed before re-flowing, the two raised center spots where the long screws go through to attach the top/bottom outside case was punched wrong from foxconn, and ms never caught it so it was warped right from the start.
Still a crap shoot, unless you redo the solder with leaded, as lead-free likes to become brittle after time with heat. Save a tree-kill an xbox
pre-heating the complete board with a griddle is a great idea, as long as you have supported it to straighten out, as the heat will twist it naturally.
My main system worked great after reflowing for two years, then e74,e73, then 0020. Each start gave a different code. GPU for sure.
If it's free, heat the piss out of the gpu first, remember what's there to lose on a dead xbox? Don't use a torch, as the flame will blister the packaging of the BGA, and it's then screwed.
I've done over a hundred, and 80% stay going until the customer saves enough to buy a new one, over a year. 20% are not meant to be. And for the 40 bucks I charge to do it, it's not all lost.
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