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Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:37 am   
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Hey guys.

There is a big discussion on Xk3y support forums about MenuISO

It started with this topic:

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A word of warning.

MS is successfully (indirectly) detecting some xk3ys in testing. I have seen this first hand, leave it at that.

Don't panic: they aren't able to directly detect (yet, anyhow), but by comparing hashes of names and hashes of pictures (all similar white squares or "ISO selected, open tray to proceed" folder names) in the Mixed Media Disc option enabled by MenuISO. See where this is going?

Filenames contained within Mixed Media Discs are hashed and compared against a database of ISOs available on P2P, Usenet, etc..
If you're using the xk3y MenuISO and accept a future dash update, there's a very good chance that you'll get whacked by the banhammer. So far detection of the xk3y itself has been unsuccessful, this is a round-about way they are currently testing and getting ready to implement. There are also measures to deal with Wasabi as well, but I don't give a rat's ass about them. Let them find out the hard way.

The solution is simple: don't use MenuISO. Get off the couch. Smile


(yes this is a brand new account but I'm a long time xk3y user who happens to have an interesting day job. Believe me or not, it's up to you. My own and my friends' xk3ys now all have MenuISO disabled.)


The admins and mods did consider it plausible

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I believe in the beginning it was always stated that the MENUISO could easily be blocked by M$. I believe it was posted a few times to "enjoy it while it lasts" if I remember correctly.

Logically if the can disable the MENUISO in an update it means they can probably also detect it.... If it can be detected then it means they can punish you (ban you) if they see fit.

I guess, assuming this information is true, that it means M$ have been / are working on a way to do something about xkey... Which is no secret and makes sense... One of the security team or the like from M$ (tubinic or whatever the name was - the one who created the jTag and is now working for M$) already requested some of the source code under the GPL etc... I am sure that the skill of that dude would have already decoded / reverse engineered the rootfs and uimage files too (pure speculation on my part but the skills to do so are there so it makes sense logically it would have been done by now)


So my advice is to disable to MenuISO and DVDMenu and use only the wifi donglee or the remote (since they dont use the console for swapping games)

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:58 pm   
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Dunno why it took that long to make up a rumor like this.

Does it still matter if you just keep your external plugged in directly and use picture viewer to load games.


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Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:00 pm   
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kennethk wrote:

Does it still matter if you just keep your external plugged in directly and use picture viewer to load games.


Of course that's what MenuISO is... lol

And pretty sure they are right, I am going to disable MenuISO

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:15 pm   
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Hopefully they can release an update that helps keep it more secure. I thought the MenuISO was just the remote.


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Post Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:50 am   
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so disable MENUISO you say. I don't think i have ever access the picture menu or whatever it is to bring it up, well if that's what you mean when you say MENUISO? I have the remote so i always just use that. For the mean time i have edited myxkey.cfg file to say "N" for MenuISO.
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