Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: 360 just got 3 red lights tonight: X-CLAMP-FIX
Well i was playing my xbox ealier tonight and it froze. I turned it back on and the screen goes blue and stops after a little bit. I then let it sit there for 2 hours and try it again, loads a game again, i go get a drink and some chips, come back and its a black screen. I turn it off and turn it back on and bam, Red lights of doom.
I think this will work because sometimes it will start up again, and others it has 3 rings. So im almost positive that its the solder is lose.
If you receive graphical errors or crashes then the "Hot Air Gun Trick" is needed instead of the "Baking Trick". Because the Temperature is higher and the solder balls will bake much better then.
This is a quote from the site. Since my xbox screen either goes black or the screen color turns weird and freezes should i do the baking or hot air gun trick? _________________________________________________________
forahobby Administrator
Joined: May 22, 2003 Posts: 23944 Location: NSW, Australia XP: 3,060,024
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:16 am Post subject:
Well as it says their x-clamp fix is for the 3 red rings error.
Sounds like you may have some other issues to.
What could be the other problems? _________________________________________________________
Turn2 360-HQ Elite Member
Joined: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 290 Location: Tennessee, USA XP: 14
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:48 am Post subject:
I was lucky in that I have never got around to cracking open my 360. I just got my replacement back from MS about 2 weeks ago.
Mine was doing the exact same thing. so I called and this fell under the 3 year warranty extension that MS gave to cover this problem. If it hadn't been covered I was going to try the hot air gun trick. _________________________________________________________
Im glad ive opened mine though, cuz my disk laser just died at the start of october. So i would have had to send it in for that, then 3 weeks after i got it back i would have to send it for this. That would have sucked. _________________________________________________________
clleavage 360-HQ Member
Joined: Apr 15, 2007 Posts: 97
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:49 am Post subject:
totally agree plus you have to pay shipping and handling to get it to microsoft and all the other trouble you have to go through just to get it fixed... XD
Ya ive heard it takes like 2 hours to get through microsoft help. _________________________________________________________
endless 360-HQ Genius
Joined: Jul 28, 2005 Posts: 1013 Location: Out in the Boonies XP: 450
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject:
I can't stress this enough. Do Not Use A Heat Gun, that is a quick fix and just makes the solder underneath the gpu/cpu that much more worse off. If you have done a controller led swap, or a rol led swap, you have seen the crap they call solder. I believe they went away from lead, and the solder they went with is utter crap.
Think about it, you heat reheat these bga connections, and it just degrades the solder everytime its heated to the melting point. The only correct way to do it is to reball it, and bake it. You can reflow, but removing the gpu/cpu, putting on good solder and baking it is the best way.
Now is that really within the grasp of the average user no, so just do what the first part of the tutorial says. Turn on the 360 let it hit 2rol, and I leave it for about 3-4 minutes. Let it cool down then tighten down the screws.
Furthermore they don't really talk about the amount of pressure you crank the screws to. Each 360 is a bit different, due to the flex in the board, so the amount of pressure does indeed change.
Lastly Id order at least the addon fan from Xcm. I believe its under a new name, but its a fan that sits in front of the cpu heatsink. It has a shroud that directs quite a bit of air over towards the gpu heatsink. You then install a air damn Xcm provides, put a piece of cardboard/tin foil over the gpu heatsink, about 3/4 of the length. Thus promoting more air flow over the heatsink.
When I combine all those steps, I get working 3rol's out of it. But don't get me wrong there are those excpetions out there, where the 360 is just dead. You get it going for a bit but in the end it keeps popping 3rol. So take that into account as well.
clleavage 360-HQ Member
Joined: Apr 15, 2007 Posts: 97
XP: 108
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:25 am Post subject:
man microsoft is so shit. when you call em its like this indian dude that answers like : hello how may i help you. do you want some of my curry rice? its like wtf there so freakin cheap putting there stuff in a 3rd world country. how can someone over there help us here? like wtf its 100 degrees over there when here (im in canada but in most of the states also) its freakin like 60 degrees out there especially now during fall. i mean when i want something done i want some professionalism to be part of it and not done by this guy that done know how to do nothing but make curry rice! XD _________________________________________________________ -Clleavage-
JBriZzeL V.I.P. Lifetime
Joined: Mar 26, 2006 Posts: 1386 Location: Gearsville,USA XP: 13,588
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:09 am Post subject:
Ha, ya I had to talk to a indian guy as well, m$ is prolly payin them Mexican money.
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