HQ NETWORKXbox One | Xbox | C64 7,625 HQ Network UsersHQ Network: 7,625 | Members OnlineGuests: 4651 |Guests OnlineMembers: 0

Xbox 360 Forums
Get involved in our Xbox 360 forum discussions..
Get Xbox Game Pass Ultimate
360-HQ.COM :: Anyone Use a PCI-e Drive?
Anyone Use a PCI-e Drive?
360-HQ.COM Forum Index -> The Lounge
Post new topic Reply to topic    
 Anyone Use a PCI-e Drive? View previous topic :: View next topic  
 
 
 
 
gamexxover
Moderator
Moderator




Joined: Feb 17, 2007
Posts: 2131

XP: 143,168

Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:54 am   
Post subject: Anyone Use a PCI-e Drive?
Reply with quote
 
Ok, so I been doing my research on parts for my next build. I had my heart set on several SSD's in Raid 0 configuration. But it turns out that there is no way to run SSD's in Raid and still have trim support on the SSD's.

Trim is what keeps the cells in the drive clean and organized, Keeps all the junk information off the drive etc. Without Trim, A blazing fast SSD will gradually become sluggish thus making the SSD not so great.

Many SSD's now have trim capability so it is not much of a problem for these drives to maintain long term performance, as long as they are not raided.

So SSD in raid is out for me.

I want the fastest Read/Write performace I can get for my next build.


So I was wondering, whats would be faster, a single nice SSD or 4 high end HDD's in Raid 0?

well I came across a benchmark for 4 raptors in Raid 0, they achieved a read/write speed of just under 350MB/s Read and just under 300MB/s write. Not too bad.

Ok so then looked up what is considered the top SSD right now, the Crucial RealSSD C300., Read speed 355MB/s 215MB/s

Then I came across the PCI-e SSD cards and have a bit of a hard on for the OCZ RevoDrive X2.
As far as the PCI-e cards go, its on the lower end of the lineup. But it puts the best SSD drive to shame. Twice the Read speed, and just over 3 times the write speed!

The RevoDrive X2 has Read / Write speeds of ....
Read 740MB/s, Write 690MB/s, Not too shabby, and I think I would be happy with this performance.

The Revo X2 is just over $500 and at about the max I want to spend on a working drive, (I will have another separate SSD or HDD for storage)

The PCI-e cards gradually go up in speed but the price goes up Exponentially. The next card up has same read speed and only 30MB/s faster in write. Yet is Double the price, Heck, one of the cards is twice as fast but costs almost 18 times the price, nearly 10 grand!

But the Revo X2 is looking pretty good to me right now.

If I do not come across any problems or something better, I think it may be my Drive for running my programs

Now, the card is considered internally Raid 0 I believe and I read somewhere that it does not have TRIM but Does have Garbage collection, which I think does the same thing. So I will have to do more research on that issue to make sure.

Anyone here using or have used these type of cards?
Would be interested to hear your thoughts/experiences.

C300 SSD Video Demo http://hothardware.com/News/Microns-RealSSD-C300-SSD-Is-The-Fastest-Ever/

Revo Drive X2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227660&cm_re=OCZ_RevoDrive-_-20-227-660-_-Product


View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
 
 
 
 
ufo1234
V.I.P. Lifetime





Joined: Oct 28, 2008
Posts: 415
Location: Universal
XP: 4,322

Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:48 am   
Post subject:
Reply with quote
 
Never used 1 of these drives.

Solid state....means no moving parts..So yea no moving parts so less chance of it going wrong.We no enything that moves or turns on a pc brakes down 1st.

And on the 360 Mad

Ie fans hard drives,DVD rom drives(they have moveing parts)so they just wear OUT.

Some net books also have solid state hard drives(the net books that have these drives)Can be pain to work on, because the hard drive is fixed to the mother board..And can not be removed,so if the hard drive gos down so dose the mother board.Evan so the solid state drive dose last longer because ther are no moving parts.

Having a faster hard drive on a PCI-Express connection,solid state....?

Not cheap.

But hey at least you can remove a PCI-Express(card) hard drive,from the MOB if it gos down and replace it with another 1.

This may be a step 4 ward for solid state drives.


No moving parts faster = performance.

Exclamation

_________________________________________________________
IXtreme v1.9.
Kreon,Pioneer Burners.
X360USB PRO.
Ck3 probe 3.

Why? Am I here??
No gamer tag.
Unidentified Flashing Object..

NAND-X ...

Xbox 1 moded 2 f--k.
X3 chip.
Digital dissplay.
Xtended.x 3 500gb hard drives

TO MODIFY IS TO BELIEVE
















View user's profile Send private message
 
 
 
 
SCARFACE
Administrator
Administrator




Joined: Feb 06, 2007
Posts: 2470
Location: Minnesota, USA
XP: 58,502

Post Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:59 pm   
Post subject:
Reply with quote
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227578

this is the one i was interested in getting as it was under $300 a while go now its back to 309 and out of stock but i wish i had the money when it was $249 they had it at one time. As i look at all the other ssd drives out there a 120gb ssd non pci is about $180-299 depending on brand and speed but there speed was not as good as those revo drives 120gb revo x1 500mb read 490mb write was 2x times faster then any of the ssd going via sata even in 6gb boards and the price was not that far off from it so im waiting a couple more months the prices will drop a lot more then i be picking up mine. Sucks though cus it uses the same slot as a capture card i want and my mobo only has that 1x slot i think i have to look again. If i get that raring up a 7gb file probably only take me 5mins instead of 20mins ha were my old computer that was highend not even a year or so ago took 3hrs which i thought was still fast compared to a lot of computers. I am still happy with my setup now and in no rush to get a ssd yet.

_________________________________________________________
The one the only Scarface!!


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
 
 
 
Div
Moderator
Moderator




Joined: Jun 27, 2007
Posts: 1135
Location: Melbourne, Australia
XP: 57,060

Post Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:19 pm   
Post subject:
Reply with quote
 
No matter what you buy, a week after you buy it, it will be half the price lol
_________________________________________________________
Opinions are like arse holes, everybody has one and your's stinks.


View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
 
 
 
 
SCARFACE
Administrator
Administrator




Joined: Feb 06, 2007
Posts: 2470
Location: Minnesota, USA
XP: 58,502

Post Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:49 am   
Post subject:
Reply with quote
 
Div wrote:
No matter what you buy, a week after you buy it, it will be half the price lol


sept for ssd drives right now they staying almost $2.00 per gb but yea soon or later they will fall and fall more just not in the need of buying it right now lol.

_________________________________________________________
The one the only Scarface!!


View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
 
Display posts from previous:   
  Post new topic  
 
  Reply to topic  
|
 All times are GMT | Page 1 of 1
Jump to:  
 

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum