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Post Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:10 am   
Post subject: XenonMKV - Convert MKV to AVI for X360 (dolby 2.0)
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XenonMKV (formerly MKVOfDeath) is a Windows frontend utility, similar to GOTsent and Videora Xbox Converter. It repackages high-definition H.264/x264 video and 5.1 audio contained in MKV files to an MP4 format that the Xbox 360 can play.

XenonMKV:
http://xenonmkv.ev98.net/

Gotsent 0.25B7
http://www.videohelp.com/download/GOTSent24b7.rar

thanks to Dkoots for the headsup.

The utility has several significant advantages:

* No video transcoding required. All video is maintained at its original quality.
* Only the audio is downsampled, so the process is much quicker than a full transcode. The Xbox 360 only supports 2-channel AAC audio with H.264 source. This is a restriction of the Xbox 360 media player and isnít because I hate 5.1 surround (Iíd actually love it, but no dice!) Please write to Microsoft and request enhanced audio support (5.1 AC3, DTS and AAC) as a feature for future dashboard releases.
* XenonMKV is designed specifically for the Xbox 360 video specifications. Thereís no worrying about whether youíve got the right converter settings.

Of course, there are several disadvantages:

* You lose the extra 3.1 channels from the original source, with no support for Dolby Digital surround. If this bothers you, consider transcoding the video and audio to WMV-HD; but if youíre that picky, transcoding in general probably wonít be an option for you. Personally, Iíd rather have the video quality, but whatever floats your boat. Another option is a Media Center PC with the Combined Community Codec Pack, AC3Filter (and CoreAVC if youíve got a slower system.) If youíre really a video/audiophile, youíll have to ante up for the good stuff.
* The Xbox 360 will not play MP4 files over 4GB in size. Only WMV files can exceed this hard limit Ė any other file type will not work. The audio downsampling process is pretty good at keeping ~4GB files under this cap, but if you have a 9GB or comparably sized MKV source, it will need to be split into two (or more) parts. Some of my friends, in particular, are completely against this. Theyíve forbidden me from using this utility on good quality content, as it ruins the flow of any movie. You may or may not care what your friends think and tell them to sod off. This is another good feature to request from Microsoft as it seems to be an arbitrary limitation and not technically related.
* Youíre going to have a more difficult time streaming MP4 files to the console than comparable XviD AVI files. Windows Media Player 11 is weaksauce when it comes to recognizing filetypes that arenít WMV. XenonMKV now includes a registry patch that fixes this issue in the Tools menu. Additionally and not specific to this utility, be well aware upfront that if your video and audio files are located on an external server or NAS Ė like mine Ė there will be a significantly painful process involved. Rather than fight Microsoft, Iíve installed TVersity to stream media to the 360. It isnít perfect but itís significantly better than WMP11 or Media Connect.

If all of this doesnít phase you, XenonMKV might be the utility youíre looking for. I wrote this utility because the Xbox 360 requires specific video settings, and doing things manually is a huge pain.

[Added link for Gotsent]

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 12:23 am   
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Anybody tried this out yet? I've had mixed results. I found this and told Hobbs about it and havent seen a single reply about it.
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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:30 am   
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Dkoots wrote:
Anybody tried this out yet? I've had mixed results. I found this and told Hobbs about it and havent seen a single reply about it.


im hoping to try it out this week. anyone else had any luck?
Most people who have told me about this still convert movies to mp4

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:44 am   
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to be honest, no matter what the container file is, if you stream to the 360 with tversity, it's still down sampled unless you have each folder set-up accordingly ie. avi folder, mp4 folder, wmv etc. If it's all smashed into one, you have to choose the convert all option. so be careful on how you have your folders set-up, could make the experience better.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:24 am   
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stumbled across this program a while ago it was pretty quick at converting but Tbh once I got the tversity with the custom whatcha ma call it encoder which transcodes mkvs on the fly works fine on my i3 2.13ghz 3gb mem lappy with the intel gma hd thingy mah jig.


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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:43 pm   
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I also have Tversity, but I just want to convert a few old MKV's without quality loss. This program does not reduce quality, as Tversity does. Please try out XenonMKV. I'm looking for some help. The two videos I've converted were not good. One didnt work at all and the other had audio sync issues and horrible picture pixellation.

Update: XenonMKV is garbage in my book, but I'm sure everyone will have mixed results and feelings. Go with Gotsent to convert MKV's. Tversity is still an option if you dont mind quality loss. Myself, I want to watch today's special effects in the best possible quality I can, without having to convert to VOB and waiting an hour or so to watch it.

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:36 pm   
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I already gave feedback about this, I strongly believe that Gotsent is better than XenonMkv.

The results are mixed, in some rips the conversion works just fine and the playback is great, in other cases I had bugs and some made the movie unplayable at all.

As I said it depends on the rip.

PS: Xenonmkv and Gotsent are only GUIs of other applications, like Gordian Knot

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:31 pm   
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After trying multiple videos on both XenonMKV and Gotsent, I must agree with X-Splinter on this one. Gotsent was faster and way more user friendly, with only a few settings to change depending on desired output, VS. way too many, and confusing options, in XenonMKV. I Haven't had Gotsent dish out an unsuable file yet, while the first two converted with XenonMKV, didnt work at all.

I'm sorting out my entire movie and video library for use on the 360. I now have a 360 slim in both my Living room and back room. So, I figured having this library would be a great treat for all. Thanks for the info provided by those who responded.

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:36 pm   
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nice topic guys and loads of interesting feedback! Smile
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Post Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 4:35 am   
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Maybe there should be a download link added for Gotsent as well as Tversity. I don't mind the search for downloads, but others may not have the patience, nor know how to find what they are looking for. (No offense to anyone.) I know I spent a few hours surfing and testing apps like these for the best results. To me, the juice is always worth the squeeze.
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