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Post Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:33 am   
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So far I am not interested in any of the confirmed games we show at:
http://www.360-hq.com/postt8468.html

I hope some games I like are released

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ooo Watch Dogs looks interesting!

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Post Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:47 pm   
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No worries tweaked. I applaud Bill for all the charitable work he has done. But when I see this crap that Harrison was spewng it heats my blood. And now Im reading that the Kinect mike will always be on and "listening" not trying to go conspiracy or anything but stuff like that makes me very uncomfortable. Especialy considering the patent they filed last year (i think) to use Kinect to monitor the number of people in the room when using Netflix, UFC PPV etc, and then slamming you with extra license fees. Overall the impression I get is of a sleazy cash grab.

Hopefully these things piss off enough people that they have no choice but to change the approach. And I certainly hope the first round of consoles doesnt have the hardware issues the real XBOX1 and 360 had. Heres to hoping Smile


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Post Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:10 pm   
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tweaked wrote:
ooo Watch Dogs looks interesting!

Shit yeh, i like the look of it! Smile The games im interested in the most are cod ghosts and battlefield 4, but yeh watch dogs is another i will be looking at.

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Post Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:36 am   
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It's so funny how so many people are sucked up by the bull shit media. This is spin doctors exacerbated!

Crowds really do panic and act like lemmings when their minds are twisted by false information and can't see the true picture.

Looking for the truth to come out, that's me

XBOX ONE is going to do very well, it's almost guaranteed now. You can thank all the buzz for that

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Post Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 8:21 am   
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i agree with you that everyone keeps jumping on the media train and going for the ride, but this is microsoft we are talking about, the media are scared. most articles i read are sugar coated, the comments have people sharing opinions about what they just read, and they make sense sometimes, privacy is on microsofts top priority list, but not yours, theirs. they want into your living room, they want your money, they always take weather its ideas or cash, they are a black hole, they dont want loyalty, they dont want fans, they are not apple, they want your soul, pre-order your rape today.


xbox one will confirm microsofts legend as 2nd rate ripoffs who cant produce quality only quantity, cant wait till google starts making top shelf all in one consoles.

xbox-won will be a failure as many who know about the anti-privacy it brings along will recommend to others not to get a xboxNEO eon one.

i will never get one unless its hacked to bits and still runs pirate games, i just hate drm and privacy invasion and this xbox is forked tounge at this point with no options. are you even allowed to sell the console 2nd hand?

booooooooooooooooooo


i read 2 days ago x1 was using ddr3 and ps4 was using ddr5 the x1 os uses 2GB overhead and the ps4 os is using 1GB ps4 is going to win this one unless either understated their specs this early.


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All I see is cry wolf, exaggerations and end of the world lameness. The current Kinect is always on. There's no anti-privacy with it. It has to be on for voice commands and the infrared scanning so it can respond to your actions. That doesn't mean the camera is constantly sending a live stream video of your living room to Microsoft. If it were, it would be using tons of bandwidth and there would be a huge uproar. I can see what is happening on my home network in real time and I can assure you that Microsoft is not doing this. It will be no different with Kinect 2. It is just a better version of the Kinect. Hey if you don't like the Kinect on when the xbox is on just unplug it. Simple like most solutions are.

Microsoft never said what the RAM overhead is. If they did I missed it. Just another bull shit bullony info without confirmation that is making everyone scared. Quite frankly, it is of no consequence about how much the OS uses in RAM as that can be changed and tweaked eternally and even dynamically. For one thing, we already know that only the base OS will continue to run while gaming, that will never use up 2 GB to run more like 500 - 700 MB. Just using logic right now. Hell the whole installation of MS OS on xbox one on the drive is probably the 2 GB figure everyone is throwing about. Since when is an entire OS ever loaded into RAM at one time. My words are just as valid as anyones elses since we are all pretty much dealing with theory at this point.

DDR3 RAM is better in many situations. For one thing it has low latency and suffers from far less errors. Sony is not using ECC RAM like this server has (extremely expensive) so expect the PS4 ram to be slower than it would have been since they will have to use processing power to keep the ram in check. By the way, the 360 has EDRAM and so will the xbox one. EDRAM never hurt the 360 but sure did keep it up to par with the PS3. PS4 will have nothing helping it when it mucks up except computational power loss. See there is plusses and minuses in all things good and bad.

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Post Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:53 am   
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"THE NUMBERS

At this stage, the known specs of the Xbox One are practically identical to those of the PlayStation 4, aside from the RAM: the Xbox One features 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 3GB of which is reserved for the OS and other tasks, leaving 5GB available to games. The PlayStation 4 on the other hand boasts 8GB of faster GDDR5 RAM, with a lower OS overhead leaving up to 7GB available to games.

It has also been confirmed that the Xbox One has a 500GB non-removable hard drive, but that its USB ports will allow external storage."

gameplanet.co.nz, thats what im basing my comments on. i just think xboxone is not the better machine. btw it seems xboxlive was hacked 6 months ago as reported this week. and wikipedia has more specs and references up several days ago.

from what ive read on the one it requires the kinect to run? and internet every 24 hours or it wont play games, if sony is smart they will attack these issues and win customers. if they join m$ then casual gamers will migrate to nintendo.

xbone = 1.23 tflops
ps4 = 1.84 tflops

i know its doesnt always mean better games and graphics but ps4 is killing the xbox one so far in my opinion apart from resolution both play 4k but ps4 the bray may not play 4k discs

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/05/21/the-tech-spec-test-xbox-one-vs-playstation-4.aspx


another point is the hard drive, 500GB non exchangeable, games have to be installed to play and each game will probably be bigger than a 360's (eg rage is 22GB installed) so say 20-50GB a game? enjoy waiting 15 minutes for games to install and delete cos youll get about 10 games on there, and that if you dont fill it up with movies and tv shows, 1 year warranty runs out i hope you have money to burn cos if the hard drive fails you have to buy a new machine cos they are locked to the machine, i doubt they will let you install games to an external.


its appropriate they called it the xboxOne, cos thats exactly what it is, an xbox 1 (original) the way the homebrew community made it, streaming tv, movies, games, apps, only they slapped drm all over it and said look what we invented. lol everything this xbox one will do (when its actually out) i can do with the xbox1 (OG) now thanks to people like sppv, so pat yourself on the back homebrew community hackers, you invented the next generation console eleven years ago. it will still beat it for customizability and return on investment. FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!1


got money to burn, you can have your 8GB ram ill be still doing more with 64MB LOL

you are microsofts test subjects, the features that stop people buying these will be changed after a while everything people put up with will stay on as long as it doesnt hurt sales too much. i feel like not eating for a few weeks to buy a wii-u on xbox neo release day just to hurt their feelings Razz


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Even if 3 or 2 GB is reserved for OS, that is never something that has to be set in stone but could be if that is the way MS wants it. We know PS4 has faster RAM not better RAM. We know xbox one has EDRAM

xbox one = 1.23 tflops
This figure is pure guesswork based on yes educated extrapolation. It is not fact as of today. Microsoft and some developers know the exact CPU and GPU specs but they are not talking. If you know that MS or some developer that is actually producing games has released this information, please point me to it because I didn't find anything concrete yet

ps4 = 1.84 tflops - The exact CPU and exact GPU are known so this is probably true

I could care less if the Kinect 2 is always on. So is the Kinect 1. I doubt they will be streaming a video feed of your living room. For one thing, that would be too costly for MS to stream 50 million useless video feeds and cut into needed bandwidth on their network and yours. Then is they did, they could never employ enough employees to monitor those video feeds or even store them to be someday viewed in a million years from now. Let's be realistic people.

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btw it seems xboxlive was hacked 6 months ago as reported this week.


xbox live was not hacked, some accounts were by social engineering and lame passwords of the users. That happens all the time because of lame passwords. My account was never in jeopardy, hopefully it stays that way. You can't protect an account with a password like 'scoobydoo' or 'password'. This is nothing like the PSN hacking were hundreds of thousands of accounts were compromised. Once again that is a false story. 47 million accounts were never hacked on xbox live

Heck, some web hosting accounts get hacked, that doesn't mean the host or even the server is hacked. Stupid passwords are a big problem and on web sites exploitable scripts are hacked too. Still the host is not compromised and if security is well done on the server the site is on, the server and other accounts would not be hacked either.

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Post Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:05 am   
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Even if 3 or 2 GB is reserved for OS, that is never something that has to be set in stone but could be if that is the way MS wants it. We know PS4 has faster RAM not better RAM. We know xbox one has EDRAM

xbox one = 1.23 tflops
This figure is pure guesswork based on yes educated extrapolation. It is not fact as of today. Microsoft and some developers know the exact CPU and GPU specs but they are not talking. If you know that MS or some developer that is actually producing games has released this information, please point me to it because I didn't find anything concrete yet

ps4 = 1.84 tflops - The exact CPU and exact GPU are known so this is probably true

I could care less if the Kinect 2 is always on. So is the Kinect 1. I doubt they will be streaming a video feed of your living room. For one thing, that would be too costly for MS to stream 50 million video feeds and cut into needed bandwidth on their network and yours. Let's be realistic people.

3GB reserved probably will be changed at some point, but knowing m$ that sounds about right anything after xp was 2GB recommended while other os got better microsloths just added resource hungry code to their products, yes i use linux.


kinect will scan your room to determine how many people are watching a movie, if it exceeds a certain number they charge you an extra fee, if they are not streaming info back then how will they know this? you can turn it on with voice commands, always listening im going to scream bombfirerapeterrorgunkill everytime i see on,e see if a cop car drives past anytime soon. id be surrprised if they dont start scanning all available data and start charging for everything.


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