Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:14 pm Post subject: Why gaming consoles may be a better option then PC
For a few months I had the thought in my head that owning a gaming console is pointless when I have a PC that can run new gen games. By all means this may be true for some people but I'd like to point out a few exceptions as to why a gaming console may be better for you.
I'm not trying to this into a whole PC vs Console war I'd just like to say a few thoughts on why I'll be sticking with console gaming, although I'm never going to give up gaming on a pc now.
My key reasons are:
- Portability
Now days I may be a bit wrong on this subject, but if you're a guy like me that visits family often you'd want to carry something around you could just throw in your backpack, and let's be an honest there are a few notebooks out there that are pretty good for gaming but some not so much. As noted below I'd rather have something I can plug and play on the go as in insert disc and play.
Note: I have seen very very tine pc machines out there.
- Ease of use
While gaming on PC is pretty easy now days I still think gaming in a console has it's advantages in the perspective, even watching blu ray or dvds. This may be a low ball excuse but the point stands that with a PC you need to make sure your pc specs match the games otherwise you will not be able to play it, with a console all you gotta do is make sure that you're putting in a disc that isn't too scratched up, but that's kind of disappearing with digital downloads.
- Price (May differ)
Now this subject is a bit sketchy, I understand you can get a pretty awesome build for about $500 I've done it, how ever the facts stand that you'll still be needing to upgrade a video card or get an SLI connection going. I know that alot of video cards even older ones run decent;y but I think it's just too much of a hassle when you could spend that $500 on something that promises to last 5+ years. Sure You can gets TONS and TONS of better features such as nVidea surround, eyeFinity and what not however as I said before gaming consoles are just a bit easier for someone like me.
Please note I didn't base any of this off of facts just personal opinions and thoughts. Do I love PC gaming of course, will I stay with console gaming yes. Because I think they're simple, easy to use, and are more portable.
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:36 pm Post subject:
valid pints BUT...
1, modular! consoles by nature are NOT user upgradeable (generic/quality third party parts) as a computer is! you're forced to use their brand and a quick benchmark test renders a console DEAD in the water vs a computer for it's performance!
2, CO$T! like the above (and similar to I-$hit and laptops) the parts are way overpriced to what a standard pci/e socket would be...you'd think it would be less cost in terms of materials but it's NOT! we're charged by a fashion trend/STATEMENT and NOT what/how it performs or how much was used to create it! xbox original is the last recent case i can think where the units were sold at a loss to recoup some dwindled offsets in production EFFECTIVELY killing the console! for once, the PIRATES are NOT to blame here...YAYY!
3, efficiency! a console WILL use much less power than a computer (in same timeline of it's generation) but for that same performance, you'd need a console of a generation NOT yet conceived....(plus the parts will be subject to a FAR greater deal of wear and tear vs a computers parts on the same tasks)
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i could go on but i won't!
you make a good case but i counter it with the obvious! get a console to COMPILE/CONVERT items at the same speed as a computer...f*cking DOUBT IT! (yest, the same cpu arrays are just as taxed as archiving/converting is...doesn't just have to be graphics and audio that maxes it out)
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject:
amiga1200 wrote:
valid pints BUT...
1, modular! consoles by nature are NOT user upgradeable (generic/quality third party parts) as a computer is! you're forced to use their brand and a quick benchmark test renders a console DEAD in the water vs a computer for it's performance!
2, CO$T! like the above (and similar to I-$hit and laptops) the parts are way overpriced to what a standard pci/e socket would be...you'd think it would be less cost in terms of materials but it's NOT! we're charged by a fashion trend/STATEMENT and NOT what/how it performs or how much was used to create it! xbox original is the last recent case i can think where the units were sole at a loss ot recoup some dwindled offsets in production EFFECTIVELY killing the console! for once, the PIRATES are NOT to blame here...YAYY!
3, efficiency! a console WILL use much less power than a computer (in same timeline of it's generation) but for that same performance, you'd need a console of a generation NOT yet conceived....(plus the parts will be subject to a FAR greater deal of wear and tear vs a computers parts on the same tasks)
............
i could go on but i won't!
you make a good case but i counter it with the obvious! get a console to COMPILE/CONVERT items at the same speed as a computer...f*cking DOUBT IT! (yest, the same cpu arrays are just as taxed as archiving/converting is...doesn't just have to be graphics and audio that maxes it out)
A 7950 can run you up $350 but I did say there were lower end cards out there that could give just the same performance, I also though I did mention that you could upgrade parts in a pc where you couldn't a console. But as I said I'm sticking with gaming because It's more portable and to the point for me.
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject:
^^ fair enough!
i'm using my console to create archives and convert movie clips...a choice DENIED to us by the corporate markets. (not if a cracking crew is on the case though)
and quoting my entry like i DIDN'T read the initial thread post is NOT required! i CAN read! (contrary to popular belief) _________________________________________________________ to all my friends... farewell and all the best to future prosperity... and remember, be excellent to each other!
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject:
I always prefer consoles (but I still think FPS and specially RTS are played better on pc because of the mouse)
Now on 2013, the last year for the xbox 360 you can claim the graphics are much better (they are) Battelfield 4 17 minutes gameplay - dont even think the 360 will reproduce those graphics. Only top pcs and later the new xbox 720 will.
I will buy a new console, since they are cheaper and more reliable _________________________________________________________
The only thing I don't like about consoles is how much they hold back the industry. The Xbox 360 is 7+ years old now and even when it was new, it's hardware was not top of the line. For the past 7 years, companies have been making games for sub-par hardware. Since consoles are the main target of game companies presently, most PC games are just ports of the console version.
Which means that no matter how advanced your computer is, the games that you're playing aren't even close to what they could be. If game companies started making games for PC and then porting them to consoles, you'd be blown away at how amazing most games look. _________________________________________________________
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:08 am Post subject:
dartht33bagger wrote:
Which means that no matter how advanced your computer is, the games that you're playing aren't even close to what they could be. If game companies started making games for PC and then porting them to consoles, you'd be blown away at how amazing most games look.
It was like that in the 90's _________________________________________________________
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:45 am Post subject:
dartht33bagger wrote:
The only thing I don't like about consoles is how much they hold back the industry. The Xbox 360 is 7+ years old now and even when it was new, it's hardware was not top of the line. For the past 7 years, companies have been making games for sub-par hardware. Since consoles are the main target of game companies presently, most PC games are just ports of the console version.
Which means that no matter how advanced your computer is, the games that you're playing aren't even close to what they could be. If game companies started making games for PC and then porting them to consoles, you'd be blown away at how amazing most games look.
I think that game devs are amazed themselves over what they could of thrown at the 360.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:34 am Post subject:
I have a top spec QOSMIO X870 Laptop with 3D and I have only ever played one game on it "Battlefield 3". Sure, It's an amazing game on the PC and whoops the ass of the 360, but I still play my Xbox 360 more..
I agree with everything you said, you spend all this time building a pc with specific specs then a new game comes out.. lol. It's a piss off when you have to upgrade your video card all the time, or the drivers crap out on a particular install. It's just common sense to have a console. Let's just hope they step up the graphics on this next gen box then we won't need to worry about PC gaming for a little while again. _________________________________________________________ HQ Network:
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:57 am Post subject:
I love my PC gaming because I have superior graphics, Faster load times, more players in games like BF3, mods, able to do things like removing hud for filming on some games where Console will not allow it. Upgradeability etc.
But Having been a Console player first and excluding cost factors I will list some advantages I think a console has that I wish was better on PC.
1. Cheaters and anti-cheat tools. Playing on xbox is pretty stable as far as the anti cheating stuff, sure you might get a cheater once in a while but xbox polices better. Anyone that plays BF3 on PC will tell you how much we hate PunkBuster. I can not tell you how many times I have had to uninstall and reinstall my game because of that program bugging out and not letting me play.
2. One client. On xbox and PS3, all your games are played through those service clients. On PC one game will be played through Origin, another through Steam etc. Some clients are fine, and some suck. then you have different drivers for different Graphics cards, When you get a new PC game, you just pray that it is going to install ok and play with no issues. On console you know when you buy a game its going to play, it is made specifically for your system.
3. Multi-player Communication. Xbox beats PC hands down. When I play COD, Rainbow 6 or BF on Xbox, I only need to plug in my mic and we are communicating, and because that is all that is involved, most players participate making the experience more social and way more fun in games like Rainbow 6, people communicating, "I got the back stairs covered" "I just go killed, 2 bad guys headed for basement from back stairs" Instant communication. On Pc the set up is more complicated, you have to use vent, put in the addy for the server you are playing on, and then since it is not just plug in your mic, no one else bothers so all communication is Text base, Which is not fun. By time I type in "there is a guy coming up stairs to where you are Rick234" Rick is already dead. The ease of communication is the one thing I really miss about console and wish PC could make as easy and straight forward, you load up a game, get in a room and just plug in your mic and your are good to go, no external vent sites needed. I do not miss the loud mouth kids but then you can always mute them.
And the only other thing that sucks is when there is an interesting game that is console exclusive.
One other thing I should mention, Yes my PC costs much more than a new xbox, but.. I can also use for Video capture, Editing, run high end graphics programs like Photoshop, after effects, cad, 3ds max etc, Then there is everything else you do on PC. I imagine everyone here that plays on Xbox also has a PC? Depending on what PC you already have, the cost of that new xbox spent instead on a few upgrades to your PC may give you that xbox or better right into your desktop.
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