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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:38 am   
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I sort of wonder how much they would actually sale if peoples old 360s didn't over heart every 2 years that they owned it.


My believe is they would have sold more as many left for PS3 over it. It must have stopped allot of potential sales as well with people not wanting to take the chance.


Yeah thats true, I went through 2 phats last one I just got my dvd flashed and was going through the play every game I Want for free phase and it blew on me 3 months later, now my slims pimped with xkeys and its just fine.

I just sort of think that Microsoft could of solved the over heating sooner instead of waiting so close to a next gen release. Karma?

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:07 am   
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Xbox 360 solved the overheating problems 4 years ago plus they sold more consoles than ps3 that's why want to maker their console (ps4) cheaper since last time they were the expensive ones
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:28 am   
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Xbox 360 solved the overheating problems 4 years ago plus they sold more consoles than ps3 that's why want to maker their console (ps4) cheaper since last time they were the expensive ones


Yeah it makes sense didn't you say it was the Jasper mobo that did? I thought I heard something about water cooling when I saw the e3. If they have a water cooler in it then yeah it's worth the extra $100.

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:58 am   
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I have to admit that this topic has been very interesting to gauge everyones views on this and I have learnt some stuff too.


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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:13 am   
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And sure 360 had RROD but it got screwed PR wise. PS3 was a piece of shit. It had rampant overheating and board warping issues and the BD drives they used were pathetic. Things had more plastic than a pop bottle. Plastic rails? seriously? What retard came up with that idea? Great over time simple use wears and warps my drive like quick land errosion. GENIUS

XBOX was significantly more powerful hardware wise, but it also had very nasty drawbacks on the kernel and software that kinda negates the advantage. The way the RAM was hard allocated in the kernel was retarded, the way certain functions were hard allocated to the CPU instead of the GPU seriously held it back. Alot of its graphical processing was done by the CPU instead of the GPU which is reason #1 why you need a RAM and CPU upgrade to watch 1080i videos in XBMC (@1080i). If you look at the games that say 720 or 1080, its kind of a shame. 90% use the exact same video at all res. And some just flat cheap ya and just all the same content and increase the output res like a cheap upconverting DVD player. Then of course its bastard Winblows OS which we all know is light like an opera singer.

So really it could be compared to PS2 and GC. DC is right out, being the first of the 6th gen and hardware/power wise being a pussy. And GC the closest power wise (and sales with 22 million)

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Post Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:22 am   
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Xbox 360 solved the overheating problems 4 years ago plus they sold more consoles than ps3 that's why want to maker their console (ps4) cheaper since last time they were the expensive ones


Yeah it makes sense didn't you say it was the Jasper mobo that did? I thought I heard something about water cooling when I saw the e3. If they have a water cooler in it then yeah it's worth the extra $100.


Yes, they made the Falcon for that but they fail because it had GPU overheating (E78)
So they made the Jasper that solve the problem.

As for 2013's Xbox 360 I have no idea what's new but whose gonna buy it now?

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Razz
absorbed as much of this thread as possible...
1, the chunky xbox pads for my man-hands..plus they're extremely robust and responsive!
2, ps2 is capable of 720p output NO SWEAT!
not aware of any games that used it natively but through GSM (graphics mode synthesiser) you can force most games to output in HI-DEF. (with a Y.Pb.Pr. cable plugged in naturally)
3, the reason for me here!
the xbox ORIGINAL was more of a black sheep than even the DC was, it's like a portal to an alternate earth opened up, puked out this "xbox" and left many of us (well, me at the time) guessing at what we was seeing!
the moment i actually bought it, i KNEW from that instant it couldn't be compared to other systems of the time...NOT generation!
it showed up then disappeared as quick as it came...
i loved the DC for the all-round selection of games that appeal to me!
the ps2 took up some SERIOUS slack with it's own take of games that reach out to me....
ngc was a conundrum in itself...
one side for the kids and the other for the adults...the gap was HUGE but was well focused on the differences, that's why i still play ngc games..(the REAL RE4 no vid clips ALL GFX, shame the ps2/computer releases got the extra content the ngc should've had from day one as it was released for that first...other platforms did away with the FULL GFX aspect and had CGI video clips integrated! they had the extra content but sacrificed the "shenmue" style seamlessness of the experience in favor of a port)
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last but by NO means least, the xbox! Razz
it's this simple, take ANY game that exists on other console platforms that gets released on the xbox, they just smash the competition to pieces, the obvious GTA series back that up for a start! the overall game selection isn't for me but the ones that do grab me, they do it right the first time so if i was on the ps2/ngc/dc and then i jump on the xbox versions, it's clear who takes the cake and the previous three consoles that have those games get PERMANENTLY retired in favor of the superior xbox versions!
i don't even rate the xbox as in the game, or rather, in the generational comparisons, just a well made intermission that's still ongoing to this day!
it's in it's OWN league and in my opinion, is EXEMPT of being lumped in with the three...old runners!
.........
oh, the ps2 as a console/HW is NO longer manufactured...
goto SKSAPPS for a portal to related news on the subject!
the ps2's production ceased a short while ago.. Sad (but the mods and cracks haven't)

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